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The Habit Podcast: Barnabas Piper

The Habit Podcast is a series of conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers. This week, Jonathan Rogers talks with Barnabas Piper, author of Hoping for Happiness: Turning Life’s Most Elusive Feeling into Lasting Reality.

In this episode, Jonathan and Barnabas talk about the unrealistic expectations that artists can sometimes project onto their craft, how much easier it is to write while sad than while happy, and the distinction between hope and optimism.

Transcripts are now available for The Habit Podcast. Click here to access them.

Jonathan has a new online writing course that starts on October 13th called “Writing with Feechies,” in which he will walk through the writing process for his first book, The Bark of the Bog Owl. Click here to learn more and to register.

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