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The Habit Podcast: Lisa Deam

The Habit Podcast is a series of conversations with writers about writing, hosted by Jonathan Rogers. This week, Jonathan Rogers talks with Lisa Deam, art historian and author of 3,000 Miles to Jesus: Pilgrimage as a Way of Life for Spiritual Seekers.

Jonathan Rogers and Lisa Deam discuss the process of writing as a pilgrimage, the human desire to leave signposts for those who come after us, the infamous “long middle” of the writing journey, and the instructive power of inefficiency.

Transcripts are now available for The Habit Podcast. Click here to access them.

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